Haha... back again (notice the same night... my car broke down and I can't leave for Thanksgiving. Fate decided against it... )
I can't recall if we discussed this in class, but I'm a big fan of Karl Jung and believe that the vast majority of his theories bury Freud's. (*Although that's not really all that braggable) Frye's discussion of types and anti-types is pretty close, but I still get rubbed the wrong way when he carries on as if biblical characters are the 'original'. It's difficult to pin down, and I realize that of course his book is about the bible, but if you think about I think the idea of the archetype goes further back than he gives credit for. Obviously he discusses original myths that may have influenced biblical stories (tiamat... etc... ) but does anyone feel the 'bible first' mentality? As if the archetypes we see and even act out today originate there?
Personally... I think the bible is just an excellent portrayal and example of those truly timeless personalities and voices that we carry. (*The word I've heard to describe them is "surpapersonal" ... but if I do that I'll just sound like I'm going over my head, eh?) Basically, of course it's one of the most dominant books in the world, but I still feel like it gets a lot of credit for things that it probably took from other places. It just taps that human root that goes back beyond any narrative and into the memory only our DNA can remember.
Also... one more thing: On a different topic, I remember Sexson's quote that there are no boring books, just boring readers/people. I agree, but it reminded me of a way I'd heard it phrased before:
"I would suggest that it's not the medium, but the quality of perception and expression, that determines the significance of art..."
Some of you might guess that this quote is from a philosopher or critic, but it's actually from Bill Watterson, whom some of you may know, and others only know as the cartoonist behind Calvin and Hobbes, haha... he also finishes the quote like this:
"... but what would a cartoonist know?"
I can't recall if we discussed this in class, but I'm a big fan of Karl Jung and believe that the vast majority of his theories bury Freud's. (*Although that's not really all that braggable) Frye's discussion of types and anti-types is pretty close, but I still get rubbed the wrong way when he carries on as if biblical characters are the 'original'. It's difficult to pin down, and I realize that of course his book is about the bible, but if you think about I think the idea of the archetype goes further back than he gives credit for. Obviously he discusses original myths that may have influenced biblical stories (tiamat... etc... ) but does anyone feel the 'bible first' mentality? As if the archetypes we see and even act out today originate there?
Personally... I think the bible is just an excellent portrayal and example of those truly timeless personalities and voices that we carry. (*The word I've heard to describe them is "surpapersonal" ... but if I do that I'll just sound like I'm going over my head, eh?) Basically, of course it's one of the most dominant books in the world, but I still feel like it gets a lot of credit for things that it probably took from other places. It just taps that human root that goes back beyond any narrative and into the memory only our DNA can remember.
Also... one more thing: On a different topic, I remember Sexson's quote that there are no boring books, just boring readers/people. I agree, but it reminded me of a way I'd heard it phrased before:
"I would suggest that it's not the medium, but the quality of perception and expression, that determines the significance of art..."
Some of you might guess that this quote is from a philosopher or critic, but it's actually from Bill Watterson, whom some of you may know, and others only know as the cartoonist behind Calvin and Hobbes, haha... he also finishes the quote like this:
"... but what would a cartoonist know?"
